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Here's the deal I went and bought the new 2012 panther 308 long rifle and it looks like a ar 15. but it's the 308 cal. Very nice gun, but Im no hunter and the gun is just to much gun for me. It looks like a machine gun. Solid black and you can text for pics. It really is a very nice gun and I have shot it about 28 shells. There is nothing wrong with this gun I'm just a handgun type of a guy. I would trade my 308 panther for a nice smith& wesson or a nice glock at a value of my panther so your trade would have to be the value of about $950.00.. I need a dependable pistol 40 cal and up.. Call or text anytime ask for Thomas Kirby. 1-606-481-5111
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